Air-to-air heat pumps

Available models

Name Country Price £ Heating power kW Rated input kW
A
COP Energy rating Air flow m³/h Noise pressure at 1m / power dB(A) Refrigerant Dimensions mm Weight kg WiFi App
Powrmatic Vision Compact 2.3DW UK 1500 1.71
0.75-2.4
0.54
3.15 A+
27-39/56 R290 810 38 InnovApp
Trotec PAC-W 2600 SH
1050 2.3 0.65
3.1 A+ 500 ?-48/59 R290 1000x585x205 38 InnovApp
electriQ IQOOL-SMART12HP
750 2.35 0.745 3.15
A 500 -/58 R290 1000x585x205 38 Tuya Smart
electriQ IQOOL-SMART15HP
800 2.93 0.815
4.0
3.60
A+ 500 -/61 R290 1000x585x205 39 Tuya Smart
BLU (ebay)
900 2.93 0.945 3.1
520
R290 1000x585x205 43.5
Qlima WDH229
1130 2.35
0.7-2.962
0.745
3.2
3.1 A 350 450 500 30-?/58 R290 1000x575x205 42 Tuya Smart Life
Argo Apollo Italy 995 2.36
1.0-2.80
0.76 3.11
A 480 29/56 R32 965 36
Unico Air 8HP Italy 960 1.7
3.1 A
27-38/53 R410A 978 37
Unico Air 25HP Italy 1610 2.1@7/20°C
1.9-2.4
0.7
7/20°C
3.1
7/20°C
A
7/20°C

27-38/53 R32 978 39

The fixing bracket holes for the Electriq are approximately 56mm below the top of the unit (based on this image of the installation template, which doesn't ppear to be to scale!). There appears to be a horizontal timber extending about 30mm below the plastic strip under the lounge side window. If we want to hang the heat pump from this horizontal timber, we would have to add an extra horizontal timber below it, with thickness around 2*(56-30) = 52mm (so the screws would go roughly in the middle of the added timber. We would have to remove part of the panel (or possibly a cladding plank) to install the additional timber.

Model results

Average winter temperature at Odiham is about 8°C.

All rooms heated (home)

This assumes heaters with adequate power in all rooms, providing 20°C in living rooms and bathroom, 18°C in bedrooms, kitchen and hall.

Heater powers W

Outside temperature °C -5 -2 2 7 10 15
Dining room 679 607 511 392 320 187
Lounge 1950 1780 1555 1273 1103 633
Back Room 899 809 689 539 449 274
Front Bedroom 496 396 264 98 0 0
Back Bedroom 516 414 277 107 5 0
Study 755 674 567 432 351 197
Bathroom 311 282 244 195 166 102
Hall 0 0
0
0
0
0
Kitchen 0 0 0 0 0 0
Total
5605 4963
4107 3036 2394 1393

Power requirement is 210W/°C for outside temperatures in range -5°C to 10°C.

3 heat pumps + existing radiators at 55°C (home3HP_R55)

NEEDS UPDATING

Heater powers W

Outside temperature °C -5 -2 2 7 10 15
Dining room 1220 869
603
446

Lounge 1570 1760
1592
1256

Back Room 913 805
666
503

Front Bedroom 340 328
317
174

Back Bedroom 340 328
317
185

Study 265 256
245
181

Bathroom 162 140
113
88

Hall 206 24
0
0

Total
5014 4508
3853
2831

% from heat pumps 74
76
74
78


Total power from other heaters 1311
1074
992
627


Total input power 3261 2673 2088 1236

COP 1.54 1.69 1.85 2.29

Room temperatures °C

Outside temperature °C -5 -2 2 7 10 15
Back Bedroom 16.3 16.7
17.7
17.9

Back Room 20.9 20.0
20.0
20.0

Bathroom 20.9 19.9
20.0
20.0

Dining Room 20.8 20.0
20.0
20.0

Front Bedroom 16.4 16.8
17.7
17.9

Hall 18.0 18.0
18.5
18.8

Inner Hall 18.6 18.5
18.9
19.2

Kitchen 17.9 17.9
18.4
18.7

Landing 17.5 17.7
18.3
18.6

Lounge 19.8 19.7
19.9
20.0

Study 18.1 18.6
19.9
19.9

An outside temperature of 7°C is about average for the winter, and COPs measured at 7°C tend to be similar to SCOPs. So the total heating for the winter should be around 2.831*24*90 = 6115kWh, and the total input power should be about 1236*24*90 = 2670kWh. At 35p/kWh, the cost using resistive heating would be 6115*35/100 = £2140, and the cost using A2A heat pumps would be 2670*35/100 = £935 - a saving of 2140-935 = £1200.

At 7°C, power from heaters other than the heat pumps is 627 W. If this could be provided by a A2W heat pump, the input power would be reduced to about 627/3 = 299 W, a reduction of 418W = 418/1236*100 = 34%.

3 heat pumps + study heater (home3HP_1PE)

Heat pumps in lounge, dining room, and back room. Portable heater in study.

Heater powers W

Outside temperature °C -5 -2 0 2 7 10 15
Dining room 1572 1294 950 584 413 330

Lounge 1632 1790 1945 2127 1615 1285

Back Room 1411 1151 1025 896 675 547

Study 417 364 332 299 222 175

Total output power
5033 4600 4252 3905 2925 2337

% from heat pumps 92 92 92 92 92 92

Total power from other heaters 417 364 332 299 222 175

Total input power 2800 2327 1989 1682 973 776

COP 1.80 1.98 2.14 2.32 3.01 3.01

Room temperatures °C

Outside temperature °C -5 -2 2 7 10 15
Back Bedroom 13.7 14.9 16.2 17.2 17.9

Back Room 20.0 20.0 20.0 20.0 20.0

Bathroom 17.2 17.9 18.4 18.8 19.0

Dining Room 19.2 20.0 20.0 20.0 20.0

Front Bedroom 14.4 15.0 16.2 17.3 17.9

Hall 15.9 17.0 17.9 18.4 18.8

Inner Hall 17.8 18.4 18.9 19.2 19.3

Kitchen 16.3 17.4 18.2 18.7 18.9

Landing 15.5 16.6 17.6 18.3 18.7

Lounge 18.3 19.3 20.0 20.0 20.0

Study 20.0 20.0 20.0 20.0 20.0

3 heat pumps + 3 portable heaters (home3HP_3PE)

Heat pumps in lounge, dining room, and back room. Portable heaters in study and bedrooms.

Heater powers W

Outside temperature °C -5 -2 2 7 10 15
Dining room 1572 1294 584 413 330

Lounge 1632 1790 2127 1615 1285

Back Room 1411 1151 896 675 547

Study 417 364 299 222 175

Total output power
5033 4600 3905 2925 2337

% from heat pumps 92 92 92 92 92

Total power from other heaters 417 364 299 222 175

Total input power 2800 2327 1682 973 776

COP 1.80 1.98 2.32 3.01 3.01

Room temperatures °C

Outside temperature °C -5 -2 2 7 10 15
Back Bedroom 13.7 14.9 16.2 17.2 17.9

Back Room 20.0 20.0 20.0 20.0 20.0

Bathroom 17.2 17.9 18.4 18.8 19.0

Dining Room 19.2 20.0 20.0 20.0 20.0

Front Bedroom 14.4 15.0 16.2 17.3 17.9

Hall 15.9 17.0 17.9 18.4 18.8

Inner Hall 17.8 18.4 18.9 19.2 19.3

Kitchen 16.3 17.4 18.2 18.7 18.9

Landing 15.5 16.6 17.6 18.3 18.7

Lounge 18.3 19.3 20.0 20.0 20.0

Study 20.0 20.0 20.0 20.0 20.0

3 heat pumps + 2 portable heaters (home3HP_2PE)

Heat pumps in lounge, dining room, and back room. Portable heater in study. Portable heater in lounge to supplement heat pump in very cold weather.

Heater powers W

Outside temperature °C -5 -2 2 7 10 15
Dining room 903 822 539 404 323
Lounge 1540 1751 1967 1464 1165
Back Room 1170 1045 861 653 528
Study 859 763 617 457 362
Lounge PE 872 360 0 0 0
Total output power
5343 4741 3984 2978 2379
% from heat pumps 68 76 85 85 85
Total power from other heaters 1731 1123 617 457 362
Total input power 3561 2841 1910 1158 992
COP 1.46 1.68 2.09 2.57 2.58

Room temperatures °C

Outside temperature °C -5 -2 2 7 10 15
Back Bedroom 14.8 15.4 16.3 17.3 17.9
Back Room 20.0 20.0 20.0 20.0 20.0
Bathroom 18.0 18.2 18.5 18.9 19.1
Dining Room 20.0 20.0 20.0 20.0 20.0
Front Bedroom 14.9 15.5 16.4 17.4 18.0
Hall 18.4 18.6 18.9 19.2 19.4
Inner Hall 18.6 18.7 19.0 19.2 19.4
Kitchen 17.7 17.9 18.4 18.8 19.0
Landing 16.8 17.2 17.8 18.4 18.7
Lounge 19.8 19.8 20.0 20.0 20.0
Study 20.0 20.0 20.0 20.0 20.0

Input power requirement is 114W/ °C for temperature range 2°C to 10°C.
Input power requirement is 236W/ °C for temperature range -5°C to 2°C.

2 heat pumps + 2 portable electric heaters (home2HP_2PE)

Heat pumps in lounge and back room, portable electric heaters in dining room and study (no heating in other rooms).

Heater powers W

Outside temperature °C -5 -2 2 7 10 15
Dining room

1000 456 373
Lounge

2167 2054 1722
Back Room

1110 822 691
Study

311 231 184
Total output power


4588 3562 2970
% from heat pumps

71 81 81
Total power from other heaters

1311 687 557
Total input power

2552 1485 1227
COP

1.80 2.40 2.42

Input energy requirement is 162W/°C for outside temperatures in range 2°C to 10°C.

Room temperatures °C

Outside temperature °C -5 -2 2 7 10 15
Back Bedroom

15.2 16.5
17.1
Back Room

20.0 20.0
20.0
Bathroom

17.8 18.4
18.6
Dining Room

20.0 20.0
20.0
Front Bedroom

15.1 16.5
17.1
Hall

17.3 18.1
19.1
Inner Hall

18.4 18.9
19.1
Kitchen

17.4 18.2
18.5
Landing

16.8 17.7
18.1
Lounge

19.6 20.0
20.0
Study

20.0 20.0
20.0

2 heat pumps + 2 portable electric heaters (home2HP_2PE_B)

Two heat pumps in lounge, portable electric heaters in back room and study (no heating in other rooms).

Heater powers W

Outside temperature °C -5 -2 2 7 10 15
Dining room

748 433 352
Lounge

2140 1791 1491
Back Room

1027 775 648
Study

685 498 402
Total output power


4600 3498 2893
% from heat pumps

63 64 64
Total power from other heaters

1712 1273 1051
Total input power

2814 1891 1563
COP

1.63 1.85 1.85

Input energy requirement is 156W/°C for outside temperatures in range 2°C to 10°C.

Room temperatures °C

Outside temperature °C -5 -2 2 7 10 15
Back Bedroom

15.6 16.7
17.3
Back Room

20.0 20.0
20.0
Bathroom

18.1 18.6
18.8
Dining Room

20.0 20.0
20.0
Front Bedroom

15.5 16.7
17.3
Hall

18.7 19.1
19.3
Inner Hall

18.7 19.0
19.2
Kitchen

17.9 18.4
18.7
Landing

17.2 18.0
18.3
Lounge

19.8 20.0
20.0
Study

20.0 20.0
20.0

2 heat pumps + 3 portable electric heaters (home2HP_3PE)

NEEDS DOORS OPENING

Heat pumps in lounge and back room, portable electric heaters in dining room and study. Portable heater in lounge to supplement heat pump in very cold weather.

Heater powers W

Outside temperature °C -5 -2 2 7 10 15
Dining room 931
847
671 418 334
Lounge 1540
1751
2137 1699 1351
Back Room 911
813
681 516 418
Study 436
387
321 238 189
Lounge PE 1329 769 0 0 0
Total output power
5146
4567
3810 2870 2292
% from heat pumps 48
56
74 77 77
Total power from other heaters 2696
2002
992 656 523
Total input power 3997
3199
2069 1271 1015
COP 1.29
1.43
1.84 2.26 2.26

Room temperatures °C

Outside temperature °C -5 -2 2 7 10 15
Back Bedroom 14.4
15.1
16.0 17.1 17.8
Back Room 20.0
20.0
20.0 20.0 20.0
Bathroom 12.2
13.0
14.1 15.5 16.4
Dining Room 20.0
20.0
20.0 20.0 20.0
Front Bedroom 14.6
15.2
16.1 17.2 17.8
Hall 16.9
17.2
17.7 18.4 18.7
Inner Hall 17.8
18.1
18.4 18.9 19.1
Kitchen 17.4
17.6
18.1 18.6 18.9
Landing 16.5
16.9
17.4 18.2 18.6
Lounge 19.8
19.8
19.9 20.0 20.0
Study 20.0
20.0
20.0 20.0 20.0

Input power requirement is 132W/ °C for temperature range 2°C to 10°C.
Input power requirement is 275W/ °C for temperature range -5°C to 2°C.

1 heat pump + 3 portable electric heaters (home1HP_3PE)

Heat pump in lounge. Portable electric heaters in dining room, back room, and study.

Heater powers W

Outside temperature °C -5 -2 2 7 10 15
Dining room 1719

523 226 143
Lounge 1605

2143 1794 1464
Back Room 1353

915 677 548
Study 414

300 222 175
Total output power
5091

3880 2919 2331
% from heat pumps 32

55 61 63
Total power from other heaters 3486

1738 1125 867
Total input power 5091

2553 1623 1274
COP 1.18

1.52 1.80 1.83

Room temperatures °C

Outside temperature °C -5 -2 2 7 10 15
Back Bedroom 14.0

16.1 17.2 17.8
Back Room 20.0

20.0 20.0 20.0
Bathroom 17.4

18.4 18.8 19.0
Dining Room 19.8

19.8 20.0 19.8
Front Bedroom 14.0

16.1 17.3 17.9
Hall 16.2

17.8 18.4 18.8
Inner Hall 18.0

18.8 19.2 19.3
Kitchen 16.7

18.1 18.7 18.9
Landing 15.8

17.5 18.3 18.6
Lounge 18.7

19.8 20.0 20.0
Study 20.0

20.0 20.0 20.0

1 heat pump + 4 portable electric heaters (home1HP_4PE)

Heat pump in lounge. Portable electric heaters in dining room, back room, and study. Portable heater in lounge to supplement heat pump in very cold weather.

Heater powers W

Outside temperature °C -5 -2 2 7 10 15
Dining room 903 822 539 404 323
Lounge 1540 1751 1967 1464 1165
Back Room 1170 1045 861 652 528
Study 859 763 617 457 362
Lounge PE 872 359 0 0 0
Total output power
5344 4741 3984 2978 2379
% from heat pumps 29 37 49 49 49
Total power from other heaters 3804 2990 2017 1514 1213
Total input power 4619 3805 2772 1920 1537
COP 1.16 1.25 1.44 1.55 1.55

Room temperatures °C

Outside temperature °C -5 -2 2 7 10 15
Back Bedroom 14.8 15.4 16.3 17.3 17.9
Back Room 20.0 20.0 20.0 20.0 20.0
Bathroom 18.0 18.2 18.5 18.9 19.1
Dining Room 20.0 20.0 20.0 20.0 20.0
Front Bedroom 14.9 15.5 16.4 17.4 18.0
Hall 18.4 18.6 18.9 19.2 19.4
Inner Hall 18.6 18.7 19.0 19.2 19.4
Kitchen 17.7 17.9 18.4 18.8 19.0
Landing 16.8 17.2 17.8 18.4 18.7
Lounge 19.8 19.8 20.0 20.0 20.0
Study 20.0 20.0 20.0 20.0 20.0

Input power requirement is 154W/ °C for temperature range 2°C to 10°C.
Input power requirement is 264W/ °C for temperature range -5°C to 2°C.

4 portable electric heaters (home4PE)

NEEDS DOORS OPENING

Heater powers W

Outside temperature °C -5 -2 2 7 10 15
Dining room 1653 1294 794 418 334

Lounge 2000 2000 2000 1697 1350

Back Room 932 828 686 516 418

Study 441 390 322 238 189

Total
5026 4512 3802 2868 2292

Energy requirement is 183kWh/°C for outside temperatures in range 2°C to 10°C.

Room temperatures °C

Outside temperature °C -5 -2 2 7 10 15
Back Bedroom 13.9 14.7 15.9 17.1 17.8

Back Room 20.0 20.0 20.0 20.0 20.0

Bathroom 11.9 12.8 14.1 15.5 16.4

Dining Room 20.0 20.0 20.0 20.0 20.0

Front Bedroom 14.0 14.8 16.0 17.2 17.8

Hall 16.3 16.8 17.6 18.4 18.7

Inner Hall 17.2 17.6 18.3 18.9 19.1

Kitchen 16.7 17.2 17.9 18.6 18.9

Landing 15.9 16.6 17.3 18.2 18.6

Lounge 19.0 19.3 19.7 20.0 20.0

Study 20.0 20.0 20.0 20.0 20.0

3 heat pumps + unlimited heaters (home3HP_RU)

NEEDS UPDATING

Used to determine radiator sizes for rooms that don't have heat pumps.

Is also relevant if we were to use portable electric heaters in all rooms that don't have heat pumps.

Heater powers W

Outside temperature °C -5 -2 2 3 5 7 10 15
Dining room 1210 1177
656


440


Lounge 1579 1772
2124


1725


Back Room 1023 815
693


528


Front Bedroom 857 611
424


205


Back Bedroom 881 604
417


203


Study 398 356
297


221


Bathroom 238 134
197


150


Hall 298 174
26


0


Total
6484
5739
4835


3471


% from heat pumps 59
66
72


78


Total power from other heaters 2671
1975
1362


778


Total input power 4663 3726 2695

1526


COP 1.39 1.54 1.79

2.28


Room temperatures °C

Outside temperature °C -5 -2 2 3 5 7 10 15
Back Bedroom 18.0 18.0
18.0


18.0


Back Room 19.7 20.0
20.0


20.0


Bathroom 20.0 20.0
20.0


20.0


Dining Room 19.6 20.0
20.0


20.0


Front Bedroom 18.0 18.0
18.0


18.0


Hall 18.0 18.0
18.0


18.4


Inner Hall 18.1 18.2
18.6


18.9


Kitchen 17.2 17.5
18.0


18.4


Landing 17.8 18.0
18.3


18.5


Lounge 19.1 19.5
20.0


20.0


Study 20.0 20.0
20.0


20.0


Existing radiators at 80°C (homeR80)

NEEDS UPDATING

Used to get output powers using gas boiler.

Heater powers W

Outside temperature °C -5 -2 2 7 10 15
Dining room 810

452


Lounge 1997

1239


Back Room 889

500


Front Bedroom 607

179


Back Bedroom 622

191


Study 335

182


Bathroom 149

88


Hall 0

0


Total
5408

2832


Room temperatures °C

Outside temperature °C -5 -2 2 7 10 15
Back Bedroom 17.9

18.0


Back Room 19.9

20.0


Bathroom 20.0

20.0


Dining Room 20.0

20.0


Front Bedroom 17.9

18.0


Hall 18.1

18.8


Inner Hall 18.7

19.1


Kitchen 18.0

18.7


Landing 18.2

18.6


Lounge 19.9

19.9


Study 19.9

20.0


At 7°C outside temperature, the required heating output is the same as when using heat pumps (as it should be). However, the gas boiler is only about 55% efficient, so to get 2832W output it would need 2832/0.55 = 5149W input. Total input energy for the winter would be 5.149*24*90 = 11122kWh, which at 7.5p/kWh would cost 11122*7.5/100 = £834. This compares with £935 using A2A heat pumps.

If we had an 80% efficient boiler we would need a power input of 2832/0.8 = 3540W. Total input energy for the winter would be 3.450*24*90 = 7452kWh, which at 7.5p/kWh would cost 7452*7.5/100 = £559.

Electriq IQOOL-SMART15HP performance

Power and noise

Mode Input power W Noise dbA
Standby 0.6 -
Fan low 7 38
Fan medium 11 44
Fan high 15 47
Cooling idle 30 41
Cooling modulating 200..740 45..51

Vibration

When mounted via the plasterboard onto the wood frame below the lounge side window, vibration at about 10Hz can be felt in both the plasterboard and the window. Rumbling can also be felt/heard in the lounge, and also in the hall and study. This often hits room air resonances resulting in a "throbbing" at 2-3Hz.

Spectroid app

Henrik settings are from DETECTING ENVIRONMENTAL NOISE WITH BASIC TOOLS.

Setting Default Henrik
Sampling rate 48000 11025
FFT size 512 4096
Decimations 5 (=2.9Hz/bin) 0 (=2.7Hz/bin)
Window function Blackman-Harris Blackman-Harris
Desired transformation interval 20mS 100ms
Exponential smoothing factor 0.30 0.95 (=Max)
Frequency axis scale Logarithmic Logarithmic
Waterfall 1/2 screen Off
Max-hold trace On Off
Peak markers 1 marker Off
Stay awake Off On
Subtract DC On Off
Test signal Off Off


Hot water cylinder

Heating radiators from immersion

With a 3kW immersion element we can store at most 3x4 = 12 kWh of heat during the overnight low tariff period.

The specific heat of water is 4186 J/kg/°C, and 1kWh = 3.6 MJ, so the specific heat is 4186/3.6e6 = 0.0011628 kWh/kg/°C.

If we heat the water in the cylinder to 65°C in the low tariff period and keep to at least 45°C for the rest of the day, we will be storing (65-45)*0.0011628 = 0.023256 kWh/kg = 0.023256 kWh/l. So to store 12 kWh we would need a cylinder capacity of at least 12/0.023256 = 516l. If heated to 70°C overnight and maintained to 40°C, we would need 12/(70-40)/0.0011628 = 344l, which is still huge.

With a more realistic cylinder size of 200 l and a temperature range of 20°C, we could store 20*0.0011628*200 = 4.7 kWh. With an outside temperature of 7°C, this would provide heating for 4700/837 = 5.6 hours. So we could get 5.6+4 = 9.6 hours heating at low tariff and the remaining 24-9.6 = 14.4 hours at high tariff, if we assume that no DHW is needed.

Horizontal cylinders

Name Price £ inc VAT Capacity l ErP rating Standing loss W Heat-up time min Number of immersions Height mm Width mm Diameter mm
Telford TSMI125H 732 125 C 62 36 1
610 935 510
Telford TSMI150H 743 150 C 72 37 1
610 1060 510
Telford TSMI170H 775 170 C 81 36 1
610 1200 510
Telford TSMI200H 825 200 C 85 33 1
655 1120 554
Telford TSMI250H 840 250 C 90 35 1
655 1130 554
Telford TSMI300H 910 300 C 97 40 1
655 1650 554
Kingspan AUIH180ERP 700 180 C 72 33 1 680 1258 550
Kingspan AUIH210ERP 760 210 C 76 35 1 680 1446 550
Kingspan AUIH250ERP 855 250 C 88 41 2 680 1696 550
Kingspan AUIH300ERP 910 300 C 88 52 2 680 2009 550
Gledhill IND180 884 180 C 78 27 1 585 1306 550
Gledhill IND210 996 210 C 82 27 1 585 1494 550
Gledhill IND250 1067 250 C 86 36 2 585 1744 550
Gledhill IND300 1225 300 C 91 32 2 585 1990 550
Gledhill 180 Sol 1025 180 C 78 21 1 585 1306 550
Gledhill 210 Sol 1123 210 C 82 24 1 585 1494 550
Gledhill 250 Sol 1220 250 C 86 38 1 585 1744 550
Gledhill 300 Sol 1505 300 C 91 26 1 585 1990 550
Joule TCIMHI-0150LFB
148






Joule TCIMHI-0170LFC 970 168






Joule TCIMHI-0200NFC 1075 200 C 89 31 2
1085 600
Joule TCIMHI-0250NFC 1288 246






Joule TCIMHI-0300NFC 1315 290






The landing cupboard is 2.4m wide, so we have 1.2m available width to the middle of the doors. This seems to preclude all but the Telford cylinders. The Telford cylinders also have the advantage that no pipes attach at the ends (this is also true of Kingspan cylinders, but they do have the immersion cap at the end).

I suspect that all horizontal cylinders have poor heat distribution when heated from the immersion, so much (or most) of the coil will probably be in cooler water. They probably don't have have such a well defined thermocline as vertical cylinders (i.e. no clear separation between hot water above and colder water below), so not so good for storing hot water when some has been used.

So forget about horizontal cylinders!

Vertical dual coil cylinders

Name Price £ inc VAT Capacity l ErP rating Standing loss W Heat-up time min Number of immersions Height mm Diameter mm
Telford TSMI125H 732 125 C 62 36 1
1200 510
Telford TSMI150H 743 150 C 72 37 1
1120 580

These cylinders will not fit in the landing cupboard without removing the block wall to the left of the cupboard doors. They only need about 90mm extra cupboard depth, so simply replacing the block wall with plasterboard would provide most of the extra space.

The cylinders have 2 coils. The lower one is a renewable coil with 3.3m² surface area, so could be used with an A2W heat pump if we ever found a suitable one.The upper coil is a standard one, intended for use with a pumped supply from a boiler. This appears to extend from about half-way down the cylinder almost to the top, and so would sit in the hot-water part of the cylinder and be well positioned for feeding radiators.

The immersion heater is almost half-way up the cylinder, so would quickly heat only just over half of the cylinder. The rest should eventually heat up via conduction, hopefully within the 4 hour low-tariff period.

Ideally I would wire the immersion with 3 alternative routes to turn it on:

  1. Via the timer, to turn it on during the low-tariff period. The thermostat in the immersion would be set to about 65°C. This would provide maximum heat storage, and also provide Legionella protection.
  2. Via a thermostat in the upper part of the cylinder with a setpoint of around 45°C. This should ensure we always have hot enough water for the sink, basins and showers/baths.
  3. Via a contactor driven from a thermostat in one of the bedrooms. This would increase the cylinder water temperature depending on how much room heating is required. The thermostat should be programmable and ideally wireless, so that it could be moved between the bedrooms and study. A wireless thermostat would presumably be supplied with a receiver/contactor, although this might not handle the immersion current.

The simplest installation would be to have the immersion on all the time (with a setpoint of around 65°C).

An intermediate version would use 1 and 2, and use larger radiators in the bedrooms and study to compensate for the lower temperature. A setpoint of 45°C would probably result in a flow temperature of about 40°C, and an average radiator temperature of 35°C - so probably very big radiators.

The ideal installation would probably result in a flow temperature of about 60°C, and an average radiator temperature of 55°C.

The ideal and intermediate installations would both require the timer to be moved to the landing.

In all installation versions a room thermostat would be needed to control the radiator circulation pump.

A bypass valve might be needed to provide a circuit for the pump if all TRVs are closed, or I could simply remove the TRV from the towel rail in the bathroom. Since the pump can be run in constant-pressure mode (and we wouldn't have a boiler to be kept happy) I'm not sure we need any form of bypass. See this article about setting up the pump.

Vertical direct cylinders

Name Price £ inc VAT Capacity l ErP rating Standing loss W Heat-up time min Number of immersions Height mm Diameter mm
Telford TSMD125 529 125 B 50 36 2
935 510
Telford TSMI150H 545 150 B 55 37 2
1060 510

These are only relevant if we don't want to heat radiators from the immersion heater, and don't want to use the boiler to heat DHW.

They come with two fitted immersion heaters, both 3kW. The lower one has a "smart" thermostat (explained in the installation instructions). We would probably use this in non-smart ("OPK") mode off a timer to come on during the overnight low-tariff period, with a setpoint of about 65°C. We would probably leave the upper one on permanently with a setpoint of about 45°C, so we always have hot water available.

The immersions would have to be on separate electrical supplies - fortunately we have two radial circuits (L3 and L4) available in the landing cupboard. L4 is currently used for the immersion heater. L3 is currently used for the water pump, boiler, GCH timer and 13A socket in the lounge by the bookcase. I would have to remove the lounge socket if we wanted to use L3 for the immersion heater. I suppose I might get away with "diversity" and just use L4: if the lower immersion is on, the water should be hot enough higher up to turn off the upper immersion - however, this would involve moving the timer to the landing.

Installation cost of unvented cylinder

Household quotes estimates 3 to 4 hours at £30 to £60 per hour to replace an unvented cylinder. They estimate £450 (two plumbers for a day) for replacing a vented cylinder with an unvented, excluding the cost of the cylinder itself, but including labour, fittings and sundries. This is presumably at £30 per hour, so we may have to pay £900 (at £60 per hour) making the total cost around 900+760 to 900+1075 = £1660 to £1975 for a 200l cylinder.

DHW heating

Energy consumption

This government survey found an average consumption for DHW of 16.8 MJ/day = 16.8*0.277778*365 = 1700 kWh/year.
According to GreenAge, average gas (hence heating+DHW) is about 12400 kWh/year.
So DHW accounts for about 1700/12400*100 = 14% of energy usage.
If heating was done by heat pumps and the DHW by immersion heater at full rate, the heating energy would be reduced to around (12400-1700)/3 = 3567 kWh/year and the proportion for DHW would increase to 1700/(3567+1700) = 32% of the total.
If all the DHW could be heated at off-peak rate, the DHW proportion would be back to around 14% in terms of cost.

Off-peak electricity

Under our current Go tariff, peak rate is 15.59 p/kWh and the off-peak rate is 5 p/kWh (32% of peak rate). Average rate is (15.59*20+5/4)/24 = 13.04 p/kWh (84% of peak rate).

From July the peak rate will be 34.86 p/kWh and the off-peak rate will be 7.5 p/kWh (22% of peak rate). Average rate will be (34.86*20+7.5*4)/24 = 30.3 p/kWh (87% of peak rate).

Existing radiators

Room Heat loss @ -5°C Radiator sizes Radiator output at 70°C Radiator output at 55°C Radiator output at 52°C
Lounge 1733 P+ 600x600 1616 1016 907
Dining area 838 P+ 600x600 1616 1016 907
Back room 967 K1 600x900 882 555 495
Front bedroom 454 K1 400x700 470 296 264
Back bedroom 479 K1 400x700 470 296 264
Hall 645 P+ 500x700 821 516 461
Study 344 K1 600x400 392 247 220
Bathroom 162 Towel 1200x600 415 261 233

COP

Theoretical limit

The theoretical maximum COP for a heat pump is given by Carnot's equation:

COPmax = Thigh / (Thigh - Tlow)

where Thigh and Tlow are the temperatures on either side of the heat pump's refrigerant circuit, measured in K.

Some examples:

Thigh °C COPmax @ Tlow = 7 °C COPmax
@ Tlow = 0 °C
COPmax
@ Tlow = -5 °C
21 21.0 14.0
11.3
35
11.0
8.8
7.7
45
8.4
7.1
6.4
55
6.8
6.0
5.5

Actual COPs

I'm hoping that actual heat pumps will approximate:

COP = E x Thigh / (Thigh - Tlow)

where E is  a constant efficiency relative to the theoretical limit. E will be different for different heat pumps.

Air-to-water heat pump COPs are usually specified at 35°C and 55°C flow temperature with an outside temperature of 7°C. According to my table above, the ratio of these two COPs should be 11.0/6.8 = 1.61.

For Daikin air-to-water heat pumps, the COP ratio is in the range 1.3 to 1.4, with E values from 0.44 to 0.54.

For LG the ratio is 1.8, with E values of 0.46 and 0.41. LG also provide a COP for 2°C outside 35°C, with E of 0.40.

Electriq 12000

The COP of the Electriq isn't specified, but if we divide the heating output power power by the electrical input power we get 2930/815 = 3.60. If we assume that this is at 7°C outside and 20°C inside, we get an E value of 3.6*(20-7)/(273+20) = 0.16. If we also assume that the 2.93 kW heat output is at 7/20°C, we get the following for outputs at different outside temperatures:

Outside  temperature °C COP Maximum output kW
-5 1.9 1.5
-2 2.1 1.7
0 2.3 1.9
2 2.6 2.1
5 3.1 2.5
7 3.6 2.93
10 4.7 3.8
15 9.4 7.6

According to my model, we need about 210W/°C to heat the house (assuming heating in the downstairs rooms only).

11 Dec 2022:

With an outside temperature of -4°C, 3 heat pumps are only managing to get the downstairs rooms to 16.5°C - i.e. temperature difference of 20.5°C. This suggests that the total heat output from the 3 heat pumps is 20.5*210 = 4305W, which is 1435W per heat pump. Average input power is about 900W (for the 2 heat pumps I am currently monitoring), so COP is about 1435/900 = 1.6. This compares with a predicted COP (for indoor temperature of 16.5°C and temperature difference of 20.5) of 0.16*(273+16.5)/20.5 = 2.3, and a predicted output power of 815*2.3 = 1870W per heat pump.

The E value under current conditions is 1.6*(16.5+4)/(273+16.5) = 0.11. Using this E value, the above table becomes:

Outside  temperature °C COP Maximum output kW Required kW
-5 1.3 1.1
1.7
-2 1.5 1.2
1.5
0 1.6 1.3

2 1.8 1.5
1.3
5 2.1 1.8

7 2.5 2.0
1.0
10 3.2 2.6
0.8
15 6.4 5.3

I've added a column for what my model predicts is the required heat output for each outside temperature. This suggests that the heat pumps require resistive heater assistance for outside temperatures below 0°C.

15 Dec 2022:

We did an experiment on 13 and 14 December: on the 13th we heated the back room using the heat pump only, and on the 14th we heated it using a resistive heater only and a schedule that attempted to reproduce the room temperatures that the heat pump had achieved. Average outside temperature was -0.1°C on the 13th and -0.3°C on the 14th. Outside temperature on the 12th was 0.9°, which may have aided the heat pump a little. Average back room temperature was 18.1°C on the 13th and 17.9°C on the 14th - so the experimental schedule worked OK. Average lounge temperature was 18.0°C on the 13th and 17.4°C on the 14th - this might have affected the results, but hopefully not by much.

Average power for the heat pump was 878W, and average power for the resistive heater was 1469W. This suggest a COP of around 1469/878 = 1.67 for the heat pump.

My model predicts that a heating output of about 993W would be needed under these test conditions, i.e. about 2/3 of the measured value.